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A podcast about learning by Thembi Watt and Jonathan Marshall. Learning is a life skill. But how do we actually learn, in real life? And how can we benefit from understanding how to learn?
A podcast about learning by Thembi Watt and Jonathan Marshall. Learning is a life skill. But how do we actually learn, in real life? And how can we benefit from understanding how to learn?
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Tuesday Feb 10, 2026
Desirable Difficulties
Tuesday Feb 10, 2026
Tuesday Feb 10, 2026
"No pain, no gain." In this mini-podcast Thembi and Jonathan explore the decisions we're all having to make about our learning muscles: which ones are allowed to get a bit flabby? Do we embrace 'desirable difficulties' and take the tougher - but more effective - route to learning via repeated and varied practice, thinking hard, and testing ourselves? Or should we relax, offload the cognitive effort, and just enjoy the world of SatNav and Gen AI?
Strong book recommendation: Desirable Difficulties in Action, by Pearce and Moore (based on the work of Bjork and Bjork).

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